[RPNet Premium] Updates on Rapidshare – New (Possible) Changes
Hello there,
Well, it’s been a while since I last updated this blog. Nothing major has happened in a while, so I guess that could be one reason.
However, I do have something now that I feel I should blog about, here. You could consider it quite critical, because it involves Rapidshare – one of the (used to be) top filehosts out there.
First off, if you’re not aware of the recent change(s) at Rapidshare, head over to http://rapidshare.com/news.html and have a look.
Basically, Rapidshare has changed their ENTIRE pricing model. Accounts are no longer duration based (as they were during the good old times).
They now, instead, have a currency model. You buy their currency (Rapids, quite a weird name) and you can use that currency to, in turn, buy packages. Each of these package(s) offer a specific set of features. For RPNet, though, we only needed the bare minimum – Bandwidth/Download Traffic.
Basic explanation and how it affects RPNet?
Back when they had TrafficShare, we would just buy 2.5TB of TrafficShare every time we ran out of bandwidth and that worked wonders. Since our account was in continuous usage, things were smooth and we would consistently renew our account.
Now, however, things have changed. Their highest bandwidth package is 120GB per day, that’ll cost us about 449 rapids/day. Their highest rapids offering is for 199.99 euro (about $245) for 20,000 rapids. Doing the math, 20,000 rapids would enable us to purchase the 120gb/day bandwidth package for 44 days, roughly.
Problem is, our daily bandwidth usage on RPNet is a minimal 200GB, and generally goes over 250GB. And it’ll only grow as the number of users on RPNet grow (which is going at a decent rate).
We have two options now. Buying another account with 120gb/day package and using it when the first account runs out. That would, again, cost us the same as above, and still not be enough to meet the daily demand (250GB is what we generally use versus 240GB is what we’ll have). To fill in that space, we would need to buy a third account with, say their 20gb or 60gb/day package.
Not an issue, yes. Or maybe not? Apparently, if you go over by even 1kb on your current package, you’re automatically upgraded to the next package. So if we, on a specific day, cross the 20gb usage on our third account, we’re automatically upgraded to a 60gb/day package that costs us more. Not an issue.
The problem here, is the fact that we may not necessarily use all the 60gb that day, or the next day. And since the unused bandwidth is NOT carried over, we would effectively ‘lose it’. In short, we lose money.
We can, of course, downgrade our package. But when you’re operating an entity the size of RPNet (and growing), it gets increasingly difficult to manaully manage a set of accounts EVERYDAY.
So, this move (the new system) will effectively (whether we like it or not) lead to us losing a LOT MORE money than we previously did.
How does this affect the community overall (RPNet and others)?
Quite simple, really. Right when Rapidshare decided to discontinue the rewards program for uploaders, it was obvious a lot of uploaders would switch to a different filehost.
As if that was not bad enough, they decided to hide behind the ‘flexible system’ and ‘better management’ excuses to just steal more money from their current and new (if any) customers.
So effectively, the uploaders no longer get any reward points. Previously, they could use those points to extend their own premium accounts and enjoy downloading as well as uploading to their accounts.
Now, however, they will be forced to pay for it if they want to download from rapidshare. It isn’t exactly difficult to spot. The plethora of complaints from everywhere about the new system. Quite a few people have moved over to alternative filehosts, and a fair few are making the switch in the coming days.
Nothing happens immediately. It’s a gradual process. And we’re all aware of the fact that this new system, was a useless move. If anything, it’ll only contribute towards Rapidshare’s eventual downfall. With the alternative hosts out there aggressively competing in terms of offering better rewards and greater flexibility (as well as informed changes), there’s little doubt about Rapidshare losing popularity as the best filehost.
And it’s not just the uplaoders that’ll be affected by this. It’s the downloaders too. Their new system and policy gives them the ‘right’ to ’steal’ from you without you having an option. If you’re on a plan that allows you to download 5gb/day and you go over it by a couple MB, you’ll automatically be upgraded to a higher plan that costs more. And what’s more to that? Their successive plans have a significant difference in cost and allowed download bandwidth. So, you will not necessarily consume all the bandwidth in the new plan, however, you WILL be billed for all of it. And any unused bandwidth is simply wasted.
Not to mention that you’ll have to be extra careful about your bandwidth usage, now. And if you get upgraded to a higer plan, you’ll have to manually downgrade. So, in the event you forget to downgrade, you’ll simply continue to be charged a higher rate. Who else thinks this is not a rip off? Granted their new system may be innovative, technically. However, they were clearly not in the right state of their minds when they decided to implement it and replace something that was functioning perfectly.
Go look at the various discussion threads (over at WBB and/or Rapid.org, etc). People are obviously NOT happy about the change.
What does RPNet plan to do?
It all really depends on how things pan out in the coming days. Me and Dman have agreed to officially support Rapidshare downloads for at least another month. We’ll make a decision after that.
We could discontinue Rapidshare support entirely. We plan to add SharingMatrix and FileServe as two new supported hosts in the coming week or two. That should compensate for dropping Rapidshare support. We might add a third filehost. We’ll hold a poll to decide which one to add.
Additionally, we’ll also decrease the price to $6.99 or so. We can’t really decrease our price(s) a lot. As it is, we support a variety of hosts for a very low price. Yes, our main aim is to help you save costs. But we also have to have positive cash flow from this service to actually maintain and run it. Wouldn’t you rather pay a dollar extra and get a better quality service as opposed to saving that one dollar and ending up with a service that’s buggy?
I’m sure most of you would agree that we manage to do a decent job on client support. We’re only going to improve on that.
Considering the new changes at Rapidshare, it won’t be long before we all start seeing a majority of new stuff (and old stuff) with links to different/alternative filehosts. Like I said, change is gradual. Thus our decision to support Rapidshare for at least another month. After that, we’ll poll on whether to drop support or not. We sure hope no one ends up disappointed with our decision. Because, at the end of the day, we at RPNet have always wanted to be completely honest about everything we do. We don’t believe in, or condone misleading the client for ANY reason.
Wish us good luck with what’s to come in the days that follow. And this is not the end. We’ll only progress more with time 
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You could offer 2 services, one with rapidshare support and one without? and have the one supporting rapidshare a bit more expensive
also are the figures of 200GB a day downloaded from rapidshare covering all 140 users of this service (the 2 servers) or just per server
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
The issue with rapidshare support is that we’ll most likely end up losing a lot of money on wasted bandwidth that does not carry over. Offering it for more money is an option, yes. But I doubt people would take that option up, considering that a lot of uploaders now will upload to alternative filehosts. So chances of finding alternative links for almost any file, are quite high.
The figure of 250gigs a day is for the entire userbase, right now. That’s of course, a little over 140.
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I dont mind losing Rapidshare..if you can add more sites. I would be willing to pay more if more sites were added..i enjoy the service and will try to continue
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
We do have plans on adding fileserve and sharingmatrix. And a third host, that will be decided by a poll.
We might also (probably) (in future) remove the unused hosts (such as gigasize) and replace them with a more popular host.
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I think you guys are doing an excelent job. I would phase out Rapidshare all together. Most of the Rapidshare links I see these days are accompanied by many other interchangable links on a variety of hosts, mainly megaupload and netload. I also think your pricing is fine as it is now, maybe even a bit low considering the amount of sites you offer. If you where to add 3rd support for a site, how about “uploading.com”, just an idea. Also looking forward to the Forums return – when ever that may be. I am keen to see whats going to happen around here.
Keep up the great work!
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
We DID try adding Uploading.com initially. However, according to Dman, the way their system works, it’s just impossible to add them as a supported host. If I remember correctly, Dman said something about not being able to login to their account remotely (from servers) because of a messed up system on their site.
We’ll try it again though, not sure if it’ll work.
And yep, we are going to improve our service/system in whatever way we can. We already have two major developments planned (affiliate and reseller system). Not to mention, a re-design of the entire site is underway too
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Phinix (16 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
No worries if you cant get uploading.com to work.
Looking forward to these developments.
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Phinix (16 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
And thinking about it, adding support for ‘x7.to’ would be nice, since its used more then uploading.com from what i can see.
Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
x7.to sounds like a good idea. Although I’ve heard a couple negative reports about them, but we’ll give them a shot
Whoa! What a way to eat up people’s money!!! and How would the people in beta be affected? Will we be discontinued?
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Hmm… I do agree that rapidshare should be discontinued. Currently hotfile and netload links are available in plenty.
Looking forward to improvements.
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mimynlodyve (47 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Hotfile is one Real big problem for as a filehost… Unless they have now changed their policy?
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
They haven’t exactly changed their policy on that. But we have not had a lot of trouble with them lately.
Although, if they still have that transparent policy in effect, it’s high time they change it. Because if they don’t, they’ll fail at grabbing all the extra revenue that’s to come their way thanks to Rapidshare’s downfall.
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Good move. Let the cancer that is Rapidshare die once and for all.
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The idea of two packages is great. I have a RS account, but since the news and the famous Rapids, i dont pay more to that scammers. For me (im a heavy uploader and downloader) RS is dead.
Congratz for the site, and of course i support your work now and, i hope, for many time more.
Greetings
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I’d say the problem with 2 packages, is that you don’t know how many people are willing to pay the extra for RS and that in turn changes how much is downloaded from their RS accounts, which changes how much it costs to keep the accounts running. So it’s difficult to calculate how much more to charge. I would just, announce that your dropping RS support in a few months and replacing it with a few new popular sites. As much as people might complain at first, once they see the lack of RS links around the place, they’ll get over it. Plus these days there are always multiple links to choose, and at least one (usually two +) of the other choices are supported by RapidPremium.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Exactly that. With the way their new system works, it’s just not possible to predict/calculate the cost of running the account(s).
Previously, with Traffic Share, things were a lot more smooth and flexible. But with the new changes, it’s complete chaos.
I know we’ll have people opposing. Considering the popularity of Rapidshare. But eventually, with time, people will adjust. And we’ll also add new (popular) filehosts, so that should effectively make the transition a lot more easier to bear.
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Okay with me. I’m already not downloading from Rapidshare if I can help. Most RS downloads comes with mirrors nowadays too. Older files will be a b*tch to download but that’s nothing new. I would love FileServe! Thankies for the post and I think you’re doing a good job.
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So thanks for this service as I always say. Rapidshare isn’t that big of an issue now a days for large and popular files at all. The only things that will probably need the rapidshare support is the small unpopular files e.g Mac section at WBB. But hopefully with this shift and the oncoming wave of anti-rapidshare support will soon hit those files as well.
If my assumptions are correct, I have a suggestion. Since you are suggesting you guys can suffice with 6.99 as the monthly payment and still be able to offer good service that means that with $1 more monthly you should have a surplus of 140ish. With unlimited websites I believe you only need one account and they average anywhere from $10 dollars a month to $80 dollars a year. So instead of reducing it by a dollar and adding 3 more sites why not keep it the same (obviously it’s a price were comfortable paying) and add a bunch of other hosts.
I know on a programming standpoint this may take a while and probably even be difficult but I think you guys should slowly add one at a time when you have free time.
I think jdownloader would be good reference of hosting websites as they have timers and anti captcha for a bunch of different sites.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Like I initially mentioned, yes it’ll take a while for people to adapt to non-rapidshare links (uploaders and downloaders alike) but it’ll happen. That’s for sure.
About adding a bunch of hosts. That’s a viable option, yes. But, it’s only worthwhile adding support for hosts that are somewhat known and used by people.
Take, for example, GigaSize as a host that we currently support. Apparently (we don’t track it yet) almost no one from our base of users use it. Effectively, it would be a wasteful effort and cost to add hosts that won’t ever be used.
Of course, when adding hosts, we’ll ask our users for suggestions on what hosts to add. As of now, the ones we see gradually growing and booming are SharingMatrix and FileServe. I’m sure there are a fair bit more out there that are doing great, too. I guess we’ll have to research
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You could ask for people to donate rapidshare accounts. I find mine to be pretty useless and it’s extended for a year. If people just donated like 1 year accounts I’m sure you could compile enough accounts with rapids to last a while.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
In a service where we’re already accepting payments for users to provide a service, asking for account donations would not be the best idea.
I do like the idea, but it’d be so much more suited if we were a public/free service. In that case, it would also be justified.
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tg2345 (7 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Well maybe not ask for donations, but hell maybe allowing people to input their own accounts and they will get utilized instead of your RS accounts. I wouldn’t mind doing that since I really only used this service for all the other hosts but using it with RS just on my account would help with faster speeds. I’m sure if you offered it , then it would cut down on bandwidth usage or if you ever end up not supporting RS still provide the option to use your own account so people can still come here for RS if they have it.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Another good suggestion.
However, if we decide to drop support entirely, and offer people to use their accounts with our service, I don’t see the point? I mean, if you have a RS premium account, why would you want to use it through RPNet? I’m sure the routing/connection between RS and your home would be better, rather than the download having to pass through our server first.
tg2345 (7 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
I get faster speeds with you guys than I do with rapidshare, which is why I would add my account to it. Especially when I’m at college rapidshare I get like 2-3 mb/s with RPNet I can usually get upwards of 7 mb/s.
But RS will be phased out eventually as I’m sure it is already starting to so I guess in the end it really doesn’t matter.
Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
That’s a first, lol. Like really. I’m quite surprised that you get better speeds with RPNet (RS downloads) as opposed to directly from RS itself.
Regardless, there’s still time to go. And we’ll see how things pan out.
Well Guys , Dropping rapidshare and adding SharingMatrix and FileServe is very good idea , and also today , most links are multiple , it is rarely to see only rapidshare links . GiGaSize and ShareCash not used much , so replacing them also another good idea .
your job is great.
Thank You
Best Regards
Saman SarKo
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Thanks for your feedback
I guess so far everyone’s been in agreement about dropping rapidshare and adding more hosts to replace it. Because well, let’s face it, we’ll obviously see a surge in the no. of non-rapidshare links.
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Another interesting host is storage.to and perhaps depositfile.com
Another idea would be to limit the use of rapidshare to about 1GB, and let that be building up so u get 30gb a month..
this would be nice just for those old movies that you cant find on other sites
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Storage.to is a scam. We did try to implement them, but their premium accounts don’t support resume AND they’re quite slow. They also don’t pay their uploaders anymore (been that way for a few months now) so you rarely see them being used.
DepositFiles is already supported by RPNet
Limiting Rapidshare to 1GB is possible. But letting it build up to 30GB is not possible. You see, with the new RS system, our unused bandwidth will be wasted. If it does not build up for us, how can we ‘pass on’ the accumulation to you?
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I support your decision to drop Rapidshare and add support to SharingMatrix and FileServe.
I’m using hotfile, depositfiles, megaupload and filefactory more than RS.
Just renew my 6 months subscription, i really like your service. Keep the good work.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Thanks for your input, Morstar
I really appreciate the positive feedback too
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Morstar (5 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
btw, would like to see RPNet support the storage.to
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Storage.to is a scam. We did try to implement them, but their premium accounts don’t support resume AND they’re quite slow. They also don’t pay their uploaders anymore (been that way for a few months now) so you rarely see them being used.
Off-topic *
Looking at everyone’s avatars, they are all different and funky. Exactly how many of them are there? lol.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Lol. That’s actually auto generated avatars. If you don’t have a profile associated with the email you used to post your comment, on Gravatar.com then a random funky avatar is assigned to your comment
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Phinix (16 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Ah i see. well I’m happy with my avatar, he looks wise
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
More like, thinking hard
Phinix (16 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Hmm that’s a matter of perspective. at least my one doesn’t look like its having a mental breakdown. lol
Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Haha, lol. Mine has been that way for a very long time now. Considering perspective, I’d say my avatar seems more like ‘WHAAAATT??!!’
Hi All
I just read the blog on RS shit. Yesterday, read the news at their site. Let’s just drop it. For folks who need it (maybe me also), we buy their minimum plan or as we want to.
Pls add SM, Fileserve ASAP.
Everything changes
Lets do it NOW !
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Fileserve is quite unstable these days (of course, lots of people going over to fileserve ever since Rapidshare has discontinued their reward system). We’ll add FS as soon as their system stabilizes again.
SM is next in line
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And oron ? do you see demand for that ? instead of gigasize ?!
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Ah yeah, I’ve heard of/noticed Oron a few times. Not sure if they’re that popular. But, definitely one new host to implement
Any other suggestions are welcome
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If you do drop rapidshare, I hope you’ll add freakshare to your list of support.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 10:05 am
Thanks for the recommendation. Another host to consider
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how about megashare??
hmm 4$ for 1 month..it’s cheap
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 10:06 am
Would that be megashare or megashareS ?
We already have Megashares support. I’m hearing of megashare.com for the first time, though. But, suggestion appreciated
And we’ll defo consider it 
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Hey you dont have to worry about files being deleted.you just have to click “delete files after 60 days of inactivity” in your premium zone and it wont be counted towards secured storage.So basically nothing has been changed about uploading.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 10:28 am
Yes, that’s an option. However, uploaders are no longer rewarded. Most of the uploaders have already moved to alternative filehosts because of that change.
And if you’re thinking it’s just the greedy uploaders, that’s not the case. Previously, a fair few uploaders (who were also downloaders) would use the points to extend their account(s). That way, they would have free premium and would consistently upload and share.
Now, though, they have to upload with no benefits. And should they wish to download, they have to pay for that. In short, they now have to pay for a service that was previously (consider it as a courtesy) available to them for free.
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I’m on board with you guys. Drop Rapidshare. They’re screwing with us when we’ve been the ones supporting them through the years. We’ve made them what they are today and this is how they repay us.
Screw ‘em. We have to move on and your plan to add other hosts is a better option. I don’t see many uploaders sticking to Rapidshare. Pity, they used to be untouchable, now they just shot themselves in both feet.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 10:29 am
I would agree with you on that. They were, at one point, pioneers of actual, worthwhile innovation. Now, they’re just coming up with crap changes.
Makes me wonder whether the previous CEO, Bobby Chang knew of the coming changes. No wonder he probably resigned.
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Lovenuts (8 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 11:15 am
That probably explains it Hamza. Didn’t know Bobby Chang resigned. Whoever has taken his place has approved of a model which doesn’t benefit uploaders whatsoever. Why does Rapidshare feel it has to reinvent the wheel when it was spinning so well for them over all these years?
Puzzling…
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teddyb (5 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Think this explains why they had to get rid of the points scheme
“As of July 1, 2010 RapidShare’s RapidPoints programme will be discontinued. This decision by the company is a reaction to claims that the reward programme rewards the uploading of contents that are protected by copyright.”
Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Do you honestly think that’s actually a valid reason? They’ve been sued for copyright materials a fair few times in the past. But they had the reward program going on, even then.
And, getting rid of the points scheme is one thing. What’s strange is them changing the entire model, which tbh, is quite messed up.
Regardless, with the new changes, they really have become a reason for their own downfall. I’m still talking and trying to persuade Dman of a specific change which could end up being great for all the people here. Not sure if he’ll agree to it, though.
Lovenuts (8 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Agree totally.
And whatever changes you’re proposing Hamza, we can only anticipate with excitement if all the wonderful services you and Dman have provided for us so far are anything to go by
If only more uploaders used Mediafire.com that place is amazing.
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Without a doubt!
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I don’t know,a lot of the stuff i need is still on RS.So please keep it for a few months.Im willing to pay a few bucks more
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mimynlodyve (47 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 5:01 pm
If you are willing to pay a few bucks more for RS why not get it yourself? :X
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Dave (2 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 5:30 pm
By a few bucks i mean 2 or 3 dollar
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 6:58 pm
We WILL continue RS support for at least another month. After that, we also have something else that we could possibly do. I’ll update the UserCP as soon as we get RS back up and running. Should be in a while.
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Theyre taking a step in the right direction with this news:
“RapidShare has added another option to its new product model: Our customers can now benefit from an automatic package downgrade according to their wishes. Furthermore, an upgrade will postpone the next billing so it only takes place after 24 hours. Customers can check their status and the time of the next billing in the Premium Zone. Due to the change, we only charge half the price in today’s billing cycle.
In order to control their expenses, users can also select a minimum and a maximum package they wish to use. The minimum package makes sure which features will always be available, while the maximum package defines which limits should not be exceeded. Thus, users can not be upgraded to a package which would cause unwanted costs.”
To be honest, i dont see the problem, for most users it works out cheaper
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Hamza (250 comments) Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Yep. I just saw that. That’s one improvement, considering the issues people have had in the past couple days.
They’re still lacking the ability to turn off the premium features altogether. So, even if you don’t use bandwidth, you’ll still be billed a minimum of 4 rapids/day.
And, the unused bandwidth not rolling over, is another feature they’re missing.
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Hi Hamza,
I can write you a simple php script to downgrade your accounts to any package at a certain time(23:59 maybe?)
This will save you a little from rapidshare scam.
Regards
Mojtaba
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In simple, RS is d3ad! my suggestion is that you guys can forget RS altogether and lower the price by a dollar or two. Adding sharingmatrix and the other thingy doesn’t really help too many users, but mayb lowering the price will?
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Hey Hamza! Will the revised plan from rapidpremium help how the server acquires bandwidth since now it last for 30 days and it does spills over.
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mimynlodyve (47 comments) Reply:
July 7th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
I mean rapidshare :X bad typo
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Boo Hoo for the uploaders, all they do is regurgitate the scenes releases anyways (who have never done it for profits) and the few people who actually upload web stuff first.
They changed it anyways, its much better than originally posted. Additional traffic doesnt expire anymore and theres just 1 package thats cheaper then what it woulda cost before. Theyll still be hurt by no rewards because thats all the web people care about it seems.
They are right about the reward programme rewarding the uploading of content thats protected by copyright and theyve always known that and so has everyone else. Thats the whole point of these sites, to share copyrighted material, they really serve no other purpose. The other sites take it even further by offering straight up cash. Its the same with all those cash linkers and image hosting sites.
Im pretty sure they got rid of it because they wanna try and go “legit” by working with media companies, as is pretty evident by the verification and licence manager services they plan on implementing. They know theres more cash in that and that it wont happen while their rewarding people for uploading their copyrighted shit. Their stupid though because those companys really have no interest in that imo, especially with them.
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Rapidshare is in decline, but change your system “for better”… vain lose many clients.
Have you thought at 4Shared, FileServe, x7.to…?
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Down with rapidshare.
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