What’s Going On – Updates Here

Right.. so chances are, you probably followed the link on the home page or on the forum and came here.

Yup, correct. And this is the post you should read. Instead of working silently on all of this, I might as well share everything with my members.

Over the past few days I’ve been talking to a few ‘legal authorities’ that have had problems against RP. I am not going to mention any names here, rather let you know what’s going on.

Apparently, they do not like the system, entirely. I’ve received a few legal threats and while I’ve ignored the threats I’ve responded to the legal queries. They want me to either shut down RP, or at least cease the ‘download’ service and turn RP into something else.

The dedicated server RP is on, is mine, so no one’s pushing me out for the time being. But if things go at the pace they are, stuff could get a lot more complicated.

Their argument is that my ’service’ encourages piracy. I don’t doubt that, and I don’t really care. But RP is a popular website. And when a website is popular, you’re bound to get attention from people you’d rather avoid.

So… for the time being.. here’s my decision:

“Effective this post, RP will be shutting down the downloader area permanently. I know this will come as a shock to a lot of people. To all the dedicated members, to DMan, and other potential members. But, this situation, unfortunately, is not entirely in my hands. Rather than being forced to completely shut down, I figure it’d be better to take the steps myself.
With all the new features and RPv3 we planned, I know we all had great plans. But for the time being, those plans are on hold.
Who knows, a replica of RP may come around and continue the legacy that RP itself is leaving behind”

I cannot state anything at this point, nor make any conclusions. But I’ll tell you this
- This is not where I’ll stop! I’ll let things die down a bit, and then (to avoid potential problems, I will most likely bring everything back up under a different domain, a different server, and complete with the v3 you always wanted to see)

Meanwhile, I’ll need suggestions from everyone here. With the actual downloader gone, and the traffic I’m getting, I need to turn RP into something different. I need suggestions from you guys, my dedicated members :)

I’ve been thinking of the following possibilities:
- Warez Forum (again, there’s legal matters involved, so fat chances)
- Some other service or general forum
- Your ideas?

Like I said, I am really sorry to have to do all this. It’s come as a shock to me too. But, I can’t really help it :(

Cheers,
Hamza


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85 Comments »

  1. Faith (29 comments) Says:

    Oh my. I am so shocked. Don’t know what to say, I just am.

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  2. Faith (29 comments) Says:

    Oh, wait. Sorry! A question:
    I see the megaupload downloader is still open. Will the megaupload downloader stay open?

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  3. xikyu46 (9 comments) Says:

    First, i am very shock to hear this case, may be the same as the other member. I think piracy is less plausible. This forum is anti-warez and porn.. so i think this is a clean forum..

    Anyway i appreciate your decicion. As a suggestion, perhaps we can activate this blog, make RP forum alive again (maybe without RP download area).

    Today, I actually want to make megathread freeware. I may enter into this blog only :) .

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    The forum itself may be against warez and porn, but the downloader does risk piracy, thus their claims!

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  4. Nimran (13 comments) Says:

    Why not just add the private downloader to just LIMITED people and not telling ANYONE bout it . LOL but at the same time please just get up the forum . ps : im so sad right now . cuz i had a bunch of links to download that my friend uploaded . i know its obviously not ur fault . but wat are the legal charges ? possible u can let me get alittle mroe files ? please , urgent .

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    RP was largely private, Nimran. The public downloader has been closed for quite some time. You can contact me via email and I’ll try to do something about those links you wanted to download.

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  5. Faith (29 comments) Says:

    I agree with xikyu. We should make the RP forums alive again, only without the RP download area, so that RP is still alive only it doesn’t break any law.

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  6. njj97 (27 comments) Says:

    RP is legal but why those authorities want to make a fuss about it ? Rapidshare itself is the cause of it not RP ( which only owns Rapidshare accounts )

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    You have a valid point there njj97. I did discuss about this too, but their claim is ‘we’re promoting piracy’ by facilitating the download progress. Can’t really say much on that matter, now can we?

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  7. Crazy (8 comments) Says:

    I’m Really Shocked.. :(

    But I hope the forum will be active, because its clean and anyone can share tips and tutorials.

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    Most definitely. Like I said, I need suggestions. And if the majority of the people here want me to retain the forum, it’ll stay :)

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  8. Hamza (91 comments) Says:

    Cannot really say that for sure. They’ve got issues with that too. Though I’ll probably bring the MU downloader back along with RS downloader under a separate domain.

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    But will it be tracked by the authorities then it will be a cat and mouse chase ?

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    What will be tracked?

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    RapidPremium itself…

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  9. Faith (29 comments) Says:

    Well, to be fair, THEY are the ones that are hosting the offensive material… THEY should remove it themselves. RP is a service which enables to get it easier, but they’re the ones that are providing it in the first place.

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  10. Faith (29 comments) Says:

    oh wait – sorry for the multiple posts but – I realised it was legal authorities, not rapidshare itself. Well, they should be speaking to Rapidshare, cos they’re hosting the material.

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    Like I mentioned earlier Faith, they may be hosting the illegal material. But the argument against RP is that it facilitates the downloading of that material, thus promoting piracy!

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  11. SGA 153 (15 comments) Says:

    The RP down loader was an add on to the great community so I really hope the forum will remain active .

    Its fine copyleft will always be a blessing and a curse .

    @ everyone .
    Keep your spirits high ,Hamza will figure something out .

    Peace out .

    Regards .
    SGA .

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  12. Pygoscelis (24 comments) Says:

    Wait, so now RP/MU/Whatever downloaders are illegal? Seriously, they should be looking at the more serious cases like MAJOR warez forums they provide the links. And not just RS ones.

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    I know. I agree with you on this one Pygo. But they have a valid point too. And they’re specifically targeting RP.. so shifting their claim on to other warez websites is going to be everything but effective!

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  13. Pygoscelis (24 comments) Says:

    Any ideas like a petition? There’re some good defense points too. Like we are just simply providing a way to download RS files. It was not solely intended to be a warez downloader. Also we do not provide links for these downloads to the public.

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    A petition is unlikely to be effective or even advocated when it is to ‘continue an illegal service (or so they say)’

    I agree with you that we’re only providing a service.. a commercial and a private service and not encouraging warez downloads. But there’s scant chances of them seeing the point in that!

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  14. Elixor (1 comments) Says:

    Oh, that’s a pity :(
    I hope that RP will be back soon!

    So I want to support you in finishing RPv3, something we all want to see. RPv2 was great, I hope v3 will be even better.

    Good luck to Hamza and the other members who helps with this project!

    grtz Elixor

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    Teah Elix, I pity you. After just only arriving from RP after such a long time…then RP suddenly shut downed. Hope that there is a way to fix this.

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  15. Pete (2 comments) Says:

    I think that RP shouldn’t have rapidshare generator but just give accounts becuase then it’s just matter of giving accounts just like they do on ebay.

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  16. Pete (2 comments) Says:

    I have an idea for the fourm is to be a fourm where you talk about general stuff and there should be an VIP only section where you can download and the legal people won’t know anything about it.

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    Thanks for the input Pete. That is exactly how this was. There was no indication of a Private Area whatsoever on the existing RP too. However, unfortunately, I have reason to believe Rapidshare has a hand in this too!

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    I agree with hamza, maybe Rapidshare strated all this just to gain more Rapidshare Accounts after shutting this ‘free’ service.

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  17. Foxx (3 comments) Says:

    CRAP – CRAP and another time CRAAAAAAPPP8!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is a reaalllyyy saaad day to me! It just sucks (sory for my language). I’ll de some really deep thinking to know if we can get RP in a different way and help you out ;)

    But I don’t really get the point, i mean what is wrong RP? Yrah, i know they say it accurages piraty BUT, that problem is rather rapidshare then RP! So why don’t they take rapidshare down, well not i want them to get rapidshare down! don’t get me wrong please but it’s just nit right!

    Hope you’ll manage something,

    greetz,

    Foxx

    PS: Hamza, i don’t know if you stell have the memeber details of us but if you lmanage to get RP back upo (with another name or anything) please send me a mail please ;)

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  18. Foxx (3 comments) Says:

    pps: can’t you keep the forum online? I mean, they can’t have a problem with the RP-forum

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    Exactly, maybe the fuss is about RapidW, not RapidPremium ( Forum ).

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  19. farmd684 (9 comments) Says:

    Oh a very sad news for us all. But i m not sure about the so called authorities. Well there are many generators around. So how many they will stop. If they really want to stop promoting piracy or so then they should try to stop all the filehosters. I m not talking about only rapidshare there are thousands. That doesnt makes sense y those people are against RP.
    I guess its time to reform a strong privacy policy. If rapidshare can contain thousand gigabytes of illegal contents then RP may contain 100 GB contains :D

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  20. xikyu46 (9 comments) Says:

    yup I agree with you farmd. There are many generators in the world. But why only the RP to target them? I Think they do that because RP has high rating in google search. RP is no 1 in google search with keyword rapid premium.

    As a suggestion, to continue this downloader area, maybe hamza can change downloader area become of a mailing list only.

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  21. sameer (9 comments) Says:

    Well… this is a complete shock to me.
    But firstly we should make forums active again.
    Best thing would be to let things cool down.
    Shifting of domain would be useless if they start to track back again. There need to be a strong policy that would state that we don’t support piracy.

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    Nimran (13 comments) Reply:

    Precisely , thats why we DISALLOW warez . this is realy pissing me off . rp being down makes me not wana come on the net often now … >:( !

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    I agree. After changing domains..they’ll start tracking us back :(

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  22. Faith (29 comments) Says:

    I think we all agree:
    1. The forums should stay open, even if the downloading area doesn’t.
    2. We’re all super shocked at this.

    & some more:
    1. if we obtain Rapidshare accs (I don’t know how you do it, but anw), and help members download, wouldn’t it be the same as people who own accounts and helping their friends download? I mean, we have these accounts, which I’m sure cost in some way, shouldn’t we be allowed to go whatever we do with them?

    2. Rapidshare has an even bigger case of piracy here. They are making profit off the pirated goods they store on their servers by selling accounts to people to get access to them, which [the money] doesn’t go to the copyright holders as far as I know.

    3. RapidPremium isn’t making monetary profit out of it. [and, okay, MAYBE the copyright holders aren't getting any money either, but that's not my point.]

    Gosh, it’s hard to argue. It’s like, piracy with profit and possible piracy without profit is still piracy in the end.

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  23. Pygoscelis (24 comments) Says:

    Encrypted servers would be useful. ;)

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    Pygoscelis (24 comments) Reply:

    I believe they are watching us! :s

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    Pygoscelis (24 comments) Reply:

    We’ll need some plans. Maybe a private part of the forums for the current members. I’m sure there is such a function for locking parts of the forums.

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    Pygoscelis (24 comments) Reply:

    [img]http://qrdemo.com/_qrlib/qr_img.php?s=8&d=Coded+message+use+a+barcode+reader[/img]

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  24. Pygoscelis (24 comments) Says:

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  25. Pygoscelis (24 comments) Says:

    Err how do we add images into comments?

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    xikyu46 (9 comments) Reply:

    you have to make your image become direct link first.. your link is not a direct link.. i have convert your picture become direct link..

    http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2218/qrimg.png

    now. you just add tag [img][/img] in that link.. and whola…

    [img]http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2218/qrimg.png[/img]

    and.

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    xikyu46 (9 comments) Reply:

    ups… something missing…
    [URL=http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qrimg.png][IMG]http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2218/qrimg.th.png[/IMG][/URL]

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    xikyu46 (9 comments) Reply:

    now i am confuse too…. :) . is what iam doing is right,,? (sorry for double post.. i can edit my comment)

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  26. WanderingLoner (1 comments) Says:

    Shocking news indeed. First of all i would like to know a bit more about these authorities. If I am not mistaken then hamza, you are located in pakistan. I did not think that pakistani authorities were really strict about piracy. they have bigger issues to worry about (terrorists). Whats more weird is that they have a problem with RP and not RapidW. Its better to be safe than sorry so get this legal mess sorted out first and then decide what to do with rp next. As far as the forum goes, you could take the approach that prize rebel(www.prizerebel.com) did. giving away free RP accounts. you could hold competitions and give away a free 3 day account to the winner. the competitions could be held on a regular basis. ofcourse you will still be giving away rs accounts and that could also be ‘promoting piracy’. the second problem is that only few people(the winners) and not all the members will access these accounts.

    Or, you could have a mailing list of all the people that want access to rp services and e-mail them the account details.( ofcourse only the most trusted rp members could get on that list.
    thats all i can think up now.

    In the end, think of your self first. Providing a free rs service and having an active community is great and all but is definitely not worth risking your career and financial future if you get into legal trouble and have to pay up hefty fines.

    P.S just giving my 2 cents and don’t mean to offend anyone.

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  27. njj97 (27 comments) Says:

    What about asking them to allow just the forums to be open ?

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    Nimran (13 comments) Reply:

    Probably we can make a temporary FREE forum . and block the others from seeing .

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    Good idea but maybe the authorities will track it back ??

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  28. kermmeer (6 comments) Says:

    hey hamza,

    I thought about something. So they say you make people download pirate stuff. But there is officially NO pirate stuff on RS so they don’t have a good point in that mather. and if you want it to become more legal you can add a rule set for the download area. Like ‘Don’t download illegal copies of movies, apps, music, …’ so then you take the blame to us and they cant harm you or the server/forum. thats my idea in that mather.

    And eum why is forum banned? because there we just have fun and help eachother so …?

    greetz,
    kermmeer

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    That might be not possible…Most people use rapidshare for downloading warez or stuff like that. What other possible reason would you use rapidshare for on a daily basis ??? :~

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    kermmeer (6 comments) Reply:

    rapidshare has the same basic defence from it. They have rules that it can only be used for legal stuff like things from a company. Like a meeting thats taped and then send it to there outland workers :D .

    greetz kermmeer

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    njj97 (27 comments) Reply:

    Hahahaha, but tons of warez is on their servers. I think their just deleting some of it and keeping the rest to remain their “popularity”…

    kermmeer (6 comments) Reply:

    the problem is they cant check everything and cant delete what they cant open. there policy has been leveled up because of the same thing thats happening now to RP but they put up more rules and even more checkups.

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  29. legend (10 comments) Says:

    were all felt sorry for this development, and i am assuming these authorities harassing Hamza are the legal ones that makes the net a little bit uncomfortable for those who wants a little space.Whe a tree has lots of fruits, more will be tempted to try picking the fruits or worse, try to cut the tree so that it bears nomore sweetness.Greed and jealousy comes and play around here and we cannot stop them who are sensitive to these evil plans. Right now, i can’t think of anything to share on how we can work around this things but i suggest that its better for us to talk in PM or e-mails sort of when we are going to suggest a little radical move here…well keep in touch hamza and hopefully, we can come up with better plan after this. TYhanks for the info bro!

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  30. faith (29 comments) Says:

    I suggest we reopen the forums, but keep it invite only and don’t open the downloader area until everything blows over. That way, only trusted people will be let in, but I still think they will somehow track us back.

    Think something like Demonoid where they have users by invite-only, and once in a while open public registration? Maybe a bad idea… RP isn’t big enough as it is.

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    Nimran (13 comments) Reply:

    Definitely . we should open .

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  31. legend (10 comments) Says:

    well i noticed that when i tried today to download my leftover links from RP but not yet downloaded to my pc, i was able to get it even Hamza says its already closed. Thanks bro for allowing us to finished what we have already uploaded to the server.

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    Nimran (13 comments) Reply:

    Wooho, i had 2 more links there .

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  32. njj97 (27 comments) Says:

    Have you guys noticed somethin weird ? Hamza has been inactive for a few days and wasn’t replying to E-Mails ? I hope he’s fine.

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    faith (29 comments) Reply:

    Maybe it’s just because he’s trying to solve the legal issues? Come back soon Hamza!

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  33. Hamza (91 comments) Says:

    New post with announcement and all other stuff is up. Have some major stuff going on.. so be sure to check it people! :D

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    faith (29 comments) Reply:

    :D thanks.

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  34. jinxeddeep (5 comments) Says:

    omg…i was busy with some conference work in my college and so dint use rp or the forums for the past one week…when i logged in now i thought i ll find some interesting news about RP v3 or that it may have been launched already…
    what a shocker!!!!!
    but i guess all of us understand the problems as they are inevitable…
    they were bound to happen sometime or the other as RP was growing and becoming more popular…

    hamza,
    is this the exact reason wy u were so concerned about the no. and quality of members joining rp?…if so i realize the precautions very well now…

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  35. esmaeelgad (1 comments) Says:

    iam proud to use rapidshare because it is
    very strong method for downloading any time
    and any place

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  36. gheek (1 comments) Says:

    Very beauiful

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  37. mimynlodyve (25 comments) Says:

    Ehhh!! I went Hong Kong for my competition and this happened?!!!! OMG!!! Hamza!! anyway.. you could have continued with the forums though… cause it is what we all can discuss in… but i am really really sad to see that the downloader had to close… seems like we got company from the legal side.

    Hamza if you need help… do tell us! we will be by you and for the plans just be sure that when it is reinitialized we will be there for you!! LOL… at least i am there for you.. i just touched down btw..

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  38. fujita (1 comments) Says:

    its fantastic !!
    i like it

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  39. Colan (1 comments) Says:

    dude, thanks for all the work you’ve been doing for all of us all this time

    I saw this shitstorm coming, and it doesn’t surprise me the slightest bit you’re ‘laying low for a while’, ’tis the best choice as things are looking now

    I admire your courage and dedication for promosing to be back one day…
    until then, good tidings to you sir!

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  40. blizzard (2 comments) Says:

    wow! this comes as a shock to me. I was there when the forum come online. We should not let the forum go not matter what.

    Suggestions:
    We need to make the forum as a regular forum which does not have any associations with the downloader. The downloader concept needs to be changed. Like the way members get to download files from RP.

    All the best, Hamza and the rest of the members.

    Blizzard

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  41. saif569 (1 comments) Says:

    hi

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  42. imalways (1 comments) Says:

    How about moving the project to Sourceforge or Google Code?

    Strike your name from the development if you’re not working on it ;) and just link to it off the site. Keep your forums with a discussion of the software. You’re allowed to discuss illegal things to an extent right?

    I heard good things about it and just moved from the newsgroup scene. See you around.

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  43. SMiTH (1 comments) Says:

    That’s too bad :(
    is the RP Source Code Available for sale ?
    contact me:
    htreciver@cooltoad.com

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    I’m sorry. But RP source code is not, was not, and will never be sold/rented out under any circumstances. It is strictly private and the sole property of RP (Dman and me)

    :)

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    Mimynlodyve (25 comments) Reply:

    Hey I am telling i love this site and in no way will i be supporting the sale of source codes for RP.. its our community and where we belong selling to you makes us no unique anymore…

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  44. Kv23 (2 comments) Says:

    Hello Guys,

    Why do you so hard but just another site and move the code that’s all.

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  45. Kv23 (2 comments) Says:

    Hello Guys ,

    Why do you so hard but just another site and move the code that’s all.

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  46. nimran (13 comments) Says:
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  47. yao90 (1 comments) Says:

    Hamza!! Hello! It’s ok dude! Make another forum.. Like some kind of general forum.. :D

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  48. scorpio2224 (10 comments) Says:

    really got shocked.. [:P]

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  49. cpu (2 comments) Says:

    yesh, I’d love site-or-blog-or-whatever without something blinking/adv :D .

    From my point of view, you should make something-like-company-or-whatever to make things clear. If you don’t mind, I can became RP shareholder.

    After that go all out, you-can-make-RP-public-or-private-or-whatever.

    Unfortunately, I’ve download many-many-whatever-movie, game, etc. but I dont even play/see all of them. why? you cant stop age…. and real life come first….
    But my plan to inherit many-many-whatever-movie, game, etc to my child. lol.

    keep going whatever you choose, you’re doing good job.

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  50. SillyNoob (2 comments) Says:

    HO. LEE. SHET.
    I spent the last day (honestly, 24 hours) wondering what the hell was happening, i called up my isp, i restated my computer 10 times, i turned off my master power switch for an hour. THEN i find this :O

    THIS. IS. REVOLTING.

    Those fat corporates arent happy with the hundreds of millions they are making atm?!?! They should look at how much money you make, and how many people you help thanks to this wonderful service. As long as there is technology there will always be piracy, if you want to eleminate piracy you either 1) Destroy or limit who has access to technology, 2) Stop producing disks of any sort, or 3) Stop Entertaining.
    Seriously they are just killing everyones joy, we have to up a replica of this site, keep it safe, keep it secret (EPICLULZ; Lord Of The Rings 1, Chapter 3, Gandalf to Frodo) and limit who has access, to this website.

    Please think of something major epic sp we can lulz in their their pwnt faces :/

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    Hamza (91 comments) Reply:

    This.. is reallllly old news. We’re WAY past this time now. Should have checked the date, at least :P

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